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Post by texarkanaguido on Dec 5, 2011 18:18:45 GMT -6
It's so hard for me to pick between the first 6! Part 5 was my first one I ever saw, so it holds a special place in my heart. I fell in love with TINA instantly haha. I love them all.
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Post by bodyboy on Dec 5, 2011 18:58:39 GMT -6
omg! Another Halloween 5 fan! Tina is my favorite character of the series, and I was soooo happy to see Rachel get it in the shoulder.
Halloween II and III are also good. Halloween is a classic, amazingly well directed, but it has been surpassed since its release... of course there will be those with nostalgia who will choose Halloween 1 anyways... meh, whatever.
H5 is a blast, continuity is terrible, but a blast!
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Post by I'm Blake on Dec 5, 2011 19:25:22 GMT -6
I loved Rachel! But Tina is my favorite also! I'm also a huge H3 fan, i know, shoot me haha
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Post by bodyboy on Dec 5, 2011 20:24:05 GMT -6
No shooting here. III is one of the best in the series.
For me, my top three switch around. It goes:
V
II
III
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I
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IV
VII
VIII
Remake
VI
H2
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Post by I'm Blake on Dec 6, 2011 3:02:47 GMT -6
Nice line up!
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Post by No Personality on Dec 6, 2011 3:39:09 GMT -6
The original film is obviously one of the greatest horror films ever made. So, that's why I voted for it. Surpassed? Not by anything in this franchise, that's for sure. Halloween as a franchise is just about the most pointless, insulting, and agonizingly prolonged series of films (and, yes, I'm including Puppet Master and Children of the Corn in this lineup)... okay, Hellraiser's worse. But, still, even Hellraiser didn't commit a sin so great as changing the plot by making Laurie Strode (just another girl Michael was stalking) his sister (thereby compromising what the entire original film meant so fanboys could pretend the franchise had continuity). Man: this ain't Star Wars, why the hell do we need another oversized franchise anyway when Friday the 13th was practically made for sequels? Carpenter only did this so he could get paid. Which I can come to terms with but none of the fans seem to. They can't stop themselves from taking these films seriously as a continuous story. And, to me, that's just sad.
Anyway, this could also be because I don't believe any of the sequels are strong individual films at all. H20 has the brains but none of the spirit of the original film. Halloween II and III have great scores and atmosphere, but II has no brains at all, III has downright wretched acting (II isn't much better in this regard but it has Pleasence and delivers more with the death scenes- so you're able to just slightly ignore the bad performances from time to time), and both have less than half-assed characters. This, of course, is why bad acting is such a problem. Bad writing + bad acting = turn it off. Turn it off + great music and decent atmosphere = you're halfway there. Return of Michael Myers is a reinvention but the characterization here is the strongest of the films other than H20. It's also surprisingly brutal and the most intense of the sequels. But I rank it below II and III because it could be this exact same film with a different killer and not insult viewers by now concocting a frickin' niece for him to follow.
Revenge of Michael Myers is... boring. I would criticize it but I don't remember anything about it other than how boring it is. Oh, I wish I could forget that these things were in it: the bumbling cops and the blond Riddler guy who jumps around like Jim Carrey meets Richard Simmons and the idiot greaser boyfriend with the car obsession and the bad foreign-communication angle between mute psychic Jamie and a stuttering boy. The movie wasn't just bad execution, it was bad ideas too. And on top of that, there's nothing in the style or music that made it memorable. However, I'll take that over Curse of Michael Myers anyday. What a piece of poo! Literally inept in Every. Single. Way. Except for the fact that they shot it in a beautiful location where it genuinely looks like autumn. The acting is bad. The writing is bad. There's almost no style. The music sucks. And it's annoying too. REALLY annoying. After H20, I skipped them all.
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Post by I'm Blake on Dec 6, 2011 4:04:55 GMT -6
I didn't mind Curse at all. Rob Zombies version was like sick trailer trash coated sneeze to me. The charterers are just so filthy and repulsive. It didn't do anything for me.
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Post by bodyboy on Dec 6, 2011 16:31:37 GMT -6
H6 is a mess! Only worsened by RZ:H2, but even then, at least Zombie's had style. Curse is such shit!
I never got why Halloween 1978 still gets the praise it receives today, but I suppose that's because I was never scared of it, had childhood autumns that were way more decorated and orange than Laurie's, and the fact that most of the acting in Halloween in downright below average. Of course, I don't mind bad acting, so it doesn't bother me much. I just hear on imdb and other places about how perfect Halloween is... and then struggle to understand why.
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Post by No Personality on Dec 7, 2011 7:01:04 GMT -6
I agree on the acting. But the movie is just about unparalleled in the field of elegant, visually sophisticated slashers. Except by Argento, who served as a big inspiration. It's a perfectly shot movie. And for a movie about teens trying to have sex, it's just classy. And smart. Absolutely one of a kind. As for not being scary, that's in the eye of the beholder. Most horror movies don't scare me.
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Post by bodyboy on Dec 7, 2011 15:36:53 GMT -6
I think that without the blue lighting and score, Halloween would be long forgotten.
Argento films are elegant. Halloween, well... the visuals don't strike a chord with me.
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Post by No Personality on Dec 7, 2011 16:06:10 GMT -6
I think that without the blue lighting and score, Halloween would be long forgotten. Argento films are elegant. Halloween, well... the visuals don't strike a chord with me. Well, Halloween's visuals work with its' setting. For some people, Halloween isn't Halloween (the holiday) without trick or treating. But every Halloween from my youth where I actually went out (those days long behind me), I remember the majority of the night feeling like Halloween portrayed it. It's a real "the party's over" kinda movie. Plus, there's an amazing vastness to the cinematography. Carpenter knows how to shoot wide shots like just about no one else who's ever directed. When you see a character looking out a window, see what they see, it's downright breath-taking. How far you can feel across the way from the window to the destination of the house facing the opposite direction or the person standing at the end watching us (through the window / camera). But the point is really that there's a feeling to Halloween that's extraordinary. That makes it larger than life. You're definitely right about the score. People rating the movie so highly can't do so without the score. And I think the main themes are among the best horror music ever composed but I would also say there isn't much in the score that is memorable apart from the Main theme (which we all know by heart) and "Laurie's Theme" which might not leap right into your brain when you hear me mention it by name. As for the blue lighting... well, the Anchor Bay 2-Disc 25th Anniversary Edition dvd and Blu-Ray are both without the blue lighting. They look like this instead:  |
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Post by Mista-Bones on Dec 9, 2011 1:19:38 GMT -6
1-2-4-5-6-7-8-3-H1-H2
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Post by bodyboy on Dec 9, 2011 4:18:06 GMT -6
The most annoying thing about RZ:H2, is that it has a lot of nice visual style to it... and it's COMPLETELY WASTED!!! Fucking awful crud, my God.
III gets better and better every time I watch it. Despite being a mad slasher fan, I think III will reign as my top fave of the series sometime soon. Then again, I never thought of the Halloween series as something it could have cracked up to be. The Myers storyline peaked at Part II. The er, original one... *sigh* So annoying to have to differentiate. Almost easier to say Parts IX and X. Eeeww
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